When there’s disagreement on feedback data

In my previous post, I described a framework for offering feedback on work results and work relationships.

Step 2 is Describe behavior or results. Use neutral language and examples. If the person doesn’t recognize himself in the description or agree with the data, the conversation is over. Labels, comparatives, and absolutes raise defenses.

Karen asks:

…. in the case of, “If the person doesn’t recognize himself in the description or agree with the data, the conversation is over”, what is the manager’s next step?

I don’t know the specifics of Karen’s situation; here’s my general advice

First, check your own language.

Adults almost always reject negative labels. (Unless they’ve been hearing them since they were tiny children, in which case their self-perception has probably become a self-fulfilling prophecy. But that’s another story.) So a label such as, inconsiderate, unassertive, sloppy, is not likely to move the conversation forward and achieve change.

Descriptions that are vague can have the same effect. I met a woman who was told in her annual review, “You are too nice.” Her manage didn’t provide any examples of behavior or impact. That left the feedback receiver struggling to figure out what her manager was talking about. She was reviewing past events trying to sift out what event could possibly have triggered the comment. When people are left to do this, they often pick an incident completely unconnected to the genesis of the feedback, with predictable consequences.

Absolutes invite people to find the one counter example to your statement. If you tell some one he is always late, he will find the one instance where he was on time.

Labels work against perceptions that the feedback is fair, and that the feedback giver has good intentions. (Point 1 and 2 on conditions for effective feedback) When the feedback receiver questions the label, and the conversations devolves into yes-you-are/no-I’m-not, violating Point 3 on conditions for effective feedback. Which in turn creates the feeling neither the process for developing the feedback, nor the way it was delivered is fair (Point 4).

It’s really hard to break the labels habit and eliminated loaded words. Really hard.

Even when your language is clear and neutral, it could be that the person needs time to process what you’ve said. That not unusual, especially when the new information conflicts with their own self-perception. People are generally more receptive if they’ve heard something about that area of behavior more before. Pushing some one to acknowledge your point of view during the initial conversation will fuel the defense dynamic.

Some options:

• offer some time to process with an agreement to revisit the feedback in a few days.

• suggest that the person talk to a handful of trusted peers to see if they have noticed the behavior

• ask the person to monitor his own behavior for a period of time and see if he notices himself doing what you’ve described

All this assumes that the organization can tolerate the behavior for a short time longer as the person works through his process. And it assumes that you have a generally positive relationship with the person. The timeframe you set depends on the impact of the behavior.

In a hierarchy, there’s always “the Big Game” of who get to tell who what to do. Playing that game is a loosing strategy.

You might shift your approach and focus on the desired outcome rather than the current behavior. If the behavior is getting in the way of that person doing his job, you can shift the conversation to “You’ll be more successful when you do ________. Here’s why.”

If it’s something like claiming to be unaware that he’s pinching another person’s arm (or other body parts…believe me, I’ve seen all sorts of astonishing behavior in the workplace), it’s time for that person to go. In such a case, or if it’s a legal or ethical violation, have your ducks lined up with HR or the company lawyer before you go into the conversation.

There’s another sort of case, where other people are reporting behavior that the person denies. It could be a conspiracy, but that’s not too likely. In this case, your data is second hand, so you have to avoid the tattle tale trap. Rather than report what other people have said, which puts you squarely in the trap, report your data.

Here’s an example from my days as a manager.

My group worked on investment accounting software for a big financial services firm. The system included an overnight cycle. When we put new code into production that affected the overnight cycle, the group rotated on-call responsibility, just in case something went wrong. When something did go wrong, the operations people would phone the person on call to fix the problem.

One of the group members, Joni was more than cranky when she was awakened from her sleep. She yelled, she swore, she told the ops people they were stupid.

Obviously, the ops people weren’t about to put up with Joni’s abuse. So they skipped Joni’s name when she was first the call list and dialed the person who was second on the list. That’s when I heard about the problem.

My first step was to support people to speak directly to Joni. Feedback is almost always most effective when it comes directly from the person who is affected by the behavior. Plus, it avoids the emotional escalation of kicking the problem up the hierarchy.

Sad to say, Joni she yelled at the people who spoke to her directly.

I hand not observed her abusive behavior directly, so I wasn’t going to get any where with second hand reports. I had seen enough of Joni in action to know she was sometimes impatient and brusque with her peers even when I was in the room, and I’d coached her on that.

So, I talked about the data I did have related to her abusive manner with the ops folks:

I had one person who was upset that his “first call” rotation was essentially doubled, since he got called when he was first and when Joni was first.

I had three ops people who were feeling abused.

I talked about the impact it was having on our relationship with ops, the team and our ability to get work done.

I acknowledged that I hadn’t seen the behavior first hand. I asked her for her perspective.

She denied yelling or swearing, and asserted that the ops people were stupid and incompetent.

My response was, “That may be your perception. Whether you think they are competent or not, it’s not acceptable to yell and swear at people.”

I talked about consequences. I told Joni that I wasn’t going to get into a he said/she said argument, but that it seemed clear that something was amiss since several people were upset by their interactions with her.

And I let her know what would happen if there were more complaints about her swearing and yelling at people.

I’d reviewed the HR policy, so I knew that the next time someone complained, I could ask for a formal HR inquiry.

I didn’t hear about Joni abusing people again, probably because she quit a short time after this conversation.

Consequences do sometimes focus the mind.

If you think my approach seems harsh, consider the No Asshole Rule.

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grouping_tax_title_text_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.4)
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loop_template_meta_a_text_shadow_stylenone
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box_shadow_stylenone
box_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.3)
box_shadow_positionouter
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box_shadow_position_productouter
box_shadow_style_grid_list_view_buttonnone
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box_shadow_position_grid_list_view_buttonouter
box_shadow_style_buttonnone
box_shadow_color_buttonrgba(0,0,0,0.3)
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box_shadow_style_loop_template_buttonnone
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text_shadow_stylenone
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0.13877892494202 seconds

Args

post_type
0post
post_statuspublish
posts_per_page4
meta_query
relationAND
0Array ( )
cat
013
110
post__not_in
0573
orderby
dateDESC
relevanssitrue

Module Settings

post_type_choosepost
loop_stylecustom_loop_layout
shortcode_name[de_loop_template_shortcode]
loop_templatesdivi-blog
custom_loop_templatenone
loop_layout9602
filter_update_animationload-6
no_posts_layoutnone
no_posts_layout_text
is_main_loopoff
include_current_termsoff
groupping_post_objectoff
groupping_taxonomynone
show_empty_onloadoff
post_statuspublish
show_current_postoff
posts_number4
post_offset0
post_display_typerelated
saved_typewishlist
acf_linked_acfnone
related_contentcategories
related_acf_fieldnone
related_content_categoriesdefault
is_category_loopoff
disable_sticky_postsoff
specific_post_objectsoff
related_content_tagsdefault
tax_name_relatednone
acf_name_relatednone
custom_tax_choosepost
acf_namenone
include_sticky_postson
include_sticky_posts_onlyoff
onload_tax_choosepost
sort_orderdate
acf_sort_fieldnone
acf_sort_typestring
acf_date_picker_fieldnone
acf_date_picker_methoddefault
acf_date_picker_custom_day30
order_asc_descDESC
sec_acf_sort_fieldnone
sec_acf_sort_typestring
sec_acf_date_picker_fieldnone
sec_order_asc_descASC
enable_loadmoreoff
pagination_positionbottom
scrolltoon
scrollto_fine_tune0px
loadmore_textLoad More
loadmore_text_loadingLoading...
enable_resultcountoff
resultcount_positionright
result_count_single_textShowing the single result
result_count_all_textShowing all %d results
result_count_pagination_textShowing %d-%d of %d results
has_mapoff
map_all_postsoff
map_all_posts_limit-1
map_infoview_layoutnone
map_infoview_layout_ajaxoff
hide_marker_labeloff
map_clusteron
map_center_first_poston
link_whole_girdon
link_whole_gird_externaloff
external_acfnone
content_section_layoutnone
grid_layoutgrid
columns1
columns_tablet1
columns_mobile1
custom_gutter_widthoff
grid_list_defaultlist
grid_list_positionleft
grid_list_cookie_time30
grid_view_icon||divi||400
list_view_icon||fa||900
icon_padding7px|7px|7px|7px
icon_margin0px|10px|0px|0px
enable_overlayon
show_featured_imageon
show_read_moreoff
read_more_textRead More
show_authoron
show_dateon
date_formatF j, Y
show_categorieson
show_contentoff
excerpt_length270
excerpt_more...
show_commentsoff
meta_separator|
content_visibilityhover
image_hover_animationnone
loop_template_content_alignmentcenter_center
loop_template_color_themelight
loop_template_same_heighton
image_min_height150px
image_max_height500px
pagination_item_background#fff
pagination_item_background_active#ebe9eb
_builder_version4.27.4
_module_presetdefault
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loop_template_meta_line_height1em
loop_template_meta_a_font_size14px
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loop_template_a_line_height1em
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background_enable_video_webmon
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button_bg_color_gradient_stops#2b87da 0%|#29c4a9 100%
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button_bg_color_gradient_start#2b87da
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button_bg_color_gradient_end#29c4a9
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button_bg_parallax_methodon
button_bg_sizecover
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button_bg_blendnormal
button_bg_enable_video_mp4on
button_bg_enable_video_webmon
button_bg_allow_player_pauseoff
button_bg_video_pause_outside_viewporton
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button_on_hoveron
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loop_template_button_text_size20
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loop_template_button_bg_color_gradient_direction_radialcenter
loop_template_button_bg_color_gradient_stops#2b87da 0%|#29c4a9 100%
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loop_template_button_bg_parallax_methodon
loop_template_button_bg_sizecover
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loop_template_button_bg_image_heightauto
loop_template_button_bg_positioncenter
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loop_template_button_bg_repeatno-repeat
loop_template_button_bg_blendnormal
loop_template_button_bg_enable_video_mp4on
loop_template_button_bg_enable_video_webmon
loop_template_button_bg_allow_player_pauseoff
loop_template_button_bg_video_pause_outside_viewporton
loop_template_button_use_iconon
loop_template_button_icon_placementright
loop_template_button_on_hoveron
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position_origin_atop_left
position_origin_ftop_left
position_origin_rtop_left
widthauto
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filter_sepia0%
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mix_blend_modenormal
animation_stylenone
animation_directioncenter
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animation_intensity_zoom50%
animation_intensity_flip50%
animation_intensity_fold50%
animation_intensity_roll50%
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animation_speed_curveease-in-out
animation_repeatonce
hover_transition_duration300ms
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hover_transition_speed_curveease
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sticky_limit_bottomnone
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sticky_transitionon
motion_trigger_startmiddle
hover_enabled0
grouping_tax_title_text_shadow_stylenone
grouping_tax_title_text_shadow_horizontal_length0em
grouping_tax_title_text_shadow_vertical_length0em
grouping_tax_title_text_shadow_blur_strength0em
grouping_tax_title_text_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.4)
title_text_shadow_stylenone
title_text_shadow_horizontal_length0em
title_text_shadow_vertical_length0em
title_text_shadow_blur_strength0em
title_text_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.4)
excerpt_text_shadow_stylenone
excerpt_text_shadow_horizontal_length0em
excerpt_text_shadow_vertical_length0em
excerpt_text_shadow_blur_strength0em
excerpt_text_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.4)
loop_template_meta_text_shadow_stylenone
loop_template_meta_text_shadow_horizontal_length0em
loop_template_meta_text_shadow_vertical_length0em
loop_template_meta_text_shadow_blur_strength0em
loop_template_meta_text_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.4)
loop_template_meta_a_text_shadow_stylenone
loop_template_meta_a_text_shadow_horizontal_length0em
loop_template_meta_a_text_shadow_vertical_length0em
loop_template_meta_a_text_shadow_blur_strength0em
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loop_template_a_text_shadow_stylenone
loop_template_a_text_shadow_horizontal_length0em
loop_template_a_text_shadow_vertical_length0em
loop_template_a_text_shadow_blur_strength0em
loop_template_a_text_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.4)
pagination_font_text_shadow_stylenone
pagination_font_text_shadow_horizontal_length0em
pagination_font_text_shadow_vertical_length0em
pagination_font_text_shadow_blur_strength0em
pagination_font_text_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.4)
active_pagination_text_shadow_stylenone
active_pagination_text_shadow_horizontal_length0em
active_pagination_text_shadow_vertical_length0em
active_pagination_text_shadow_blur_strength0em
active_pagination_text_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.4)
button_text_shadow_stylenone
button_text_shadow_horizontal_length0em
button_text_shadow_vertical_length0em
button_text_shadow_blur_strength0em
button_text_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.4)
loop_template_button_text_shadow_stylenone
loop_template_button_text_shadow_horizontal_length0em
loop_template_button_text_shadow_vertical_length0em
loop_template_button_text_shadow_blur_strength0em
loop_template_button_text_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.4)
box_shadow_stylenone
box_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.3)
box_shadow_positionouter
box_shadow_style_productnone
box_shadow_color_productrgba(0,0,0,0.3)
box_shadow_position_productouter
box_shadow_style_grid_list_view_buttonnone
box_shadow_color_grid_list_view_buttonrgba(0,0,0,0.3)
box_shadow_position_grid_list_view_buttonouter
box_shadow_style_buttonnone
box_shadow_color_buttonrgba(0,0,0,0.3)
box_shadow_position_buttonouter
box_shadow_style_loop_template_buttonnone
box_shadow_color_loop_template_buttonrgba(0,0,0,0.3)
box_shadow_position_loop_template_buttonouter
text_shadow_stylenone
text_shadow_horizontal_length0em
text_shadow_vertical_length0em
text_shadow_blur_strength0em
text_shadow_colorrgba(0,0,0,0.4)
disabledoff
lockedoff
global_colors_info{}
0.29037594795227 seconds